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Slouppi • View topic - Reitin nimeäminen

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 Post subject: Reitin nimeäminen
PostPosted: Sat May 26, 2007 09:28 
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Mietiskelin tässä vain että mitenkäs se reittien nimeäminen menee. Nykyinen käsitykseni on, että joku heebo kiipeää yksin tai kaverinsa kanssa metsässä, toteaa tehneensä uuden reitin, antaa sille nimen ja se on siinä. Entä jos kaksi heeboa kiipeää saman reitin toisistaan tietämättömänä? Saako nopeampi tiedonlevittäjä reitin nimiinsä, vai taidokkaampi toponpiirtäjä?

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Ei kai se nyt niin tarkkaa oo. tärkeempää on keksii osuvampi nimi reitille, kuten uljas näky ja huutava puutos :wink: (hah,nää on mun kaks ihan uutta semipulttilinjaa exeellento graniitilla!)

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Sori tää olikin boulderi keskustelu.. heh, who cares.


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No ensinousija nimeää reitin. Ensinousija on ensimmäinen nousija, ei toinen -kuten voi helpostikin päätellä jo sanasta itsestään. Joskus ei oo selvyyttä kuka se on ja silloin ollaan jopa jätetty reittejä nimeämättä...

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Niin siis lähinnä mietin sitä käytäntöä, kun joku "lonely rider" luo kamalasti uusia reittejä, niin miten se tulee julki.


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Hemo wrote:
Niin siis lähinnä mietin sitä käytäntöä, kun joku "lonely rider" luo kamalasti uusia reittejä, niin miten se tulee julki.


Meillon tämmönen www.slouppi.net. Toisekseen eiköhän se siinä kivellä käy ilimi onko siinä kiivetty vaiko eikö. Yleensä mankka on semmosta shaibaa, että se antaa itsestää näkyvän kuvan.

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Ainakin itse noudatan Sloupin olemassaollessa sellaista käytäntöä, että jos löydän mankkaisen kiven/muurin, jota ei ole julkisesti topotettu, niin 1) kyselen Sloupista sen "statusta" (prokkis? vapaa?) tai 2) jään odottelemaan julkistamista. Edellinen tulee lähinnä kyseeseen aivan ilmeisen helposti havaittavan mestan suhteen, jälkimmäinen paikassa, joka saattaa pysyä salassa vielä puuhaihmistensä toivoman ajan. Molempia olen muutaman löytänyt, yhtäkään en ole ilman tietoa lähtenyt yrittämään, enkä toisaalta ole kysellytkään niiden perään. Kenenkään ei ole mikään pakko päästä just-nyt-heti kiipeämään kaikkea mikä vastaan tulee, ei edes Suomen kaltaisessa kiipeilyllisessä piip-landiassa... Annetaan ihmisille aikaa tehdä prokkiksensa, ihan samalla periaatteella kuin köysireiteissäkin.

On turha syyttää muita "pimittämisestä" jne., jos ei ole itse koskaan tetsannut kartta kourassa syvemmälle metsään ja sairastunut pölykeuhkoon ja olkapäätulehdukseen harjan kanssa heilumisesta. Kyllä niitä bouldereita ihan oikeasti vielä on siellä jossain, ne eivät vain kasva autotiessä kiinni.

Joo, tiedän että joidenkin mielestä tällainen on pikkusieluista nipottamista, mutta tunnen myös aika monia samoin ajattelevia. Mielestäni olisi hyvä ainakin keskustella täällä, että päteekö bouldereihin täysin toiset "tekijänoikeudet" kuin narujuttuihin -- ja miksi niin?! Ottakaa kantaa...


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Jos se lonely rider ei kaipaa nimeä reitilleen niin ei sitten. Silloin reitti vaan jää nimeämättä. Ei nimettömyys reittiä pahenna. Topoonkin voi hyvin merkata sen kohdalle "reitti numero 2 nimetön 6c+" tjsp. jos sellaista on tekemässä.

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