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 Post subject: Uusi topo julkaistu: Taivassalon Kahiluoto
PostPosted: Mon Oct 31, 2005 22:07 
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Taivassalon Kahiluodon topo on valmis ja julkaistu tutussa osoitteessa http://www.kruxi.fi/docs/topo/kalliot/

Topoa on tehnyt tiimimme uusi jäsen Mikko Lähteenmäki, jolle kuuluu myös kunnia kallion löytämisestä.

Otamme mieluusti vastaan palautetta ja erityisesti haluaisimme kuulla, jos sivustomme toiminnassa esiintyy ongelmia.

Seuraavaksi Lounais-Suomen alueella voi odotella uutta topoa kesällä 8)

Pirunvuoren päivityksiä on myös tulossa runsaasti, todennäköisimmin vielä tämän vuoden puolella.

Hyvät kiipeilyt kaikille!


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Cheers for the topos they look excellent. I have already climbed at Kustavi but definitely will make an effort to get on some of the seemingly endless, quality new crags you are finding.

Keep up the good work.

P.S. Just a small suggestion, is it possible to have a rough estimate of the length of routes on the topos?


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Jody wrote:
Cheers for the topos they look excellent. I have already climbed at Kustavi but definitely will make an effort to get on some of the seemingly endless, quality new crags you are finding.

Keep up the good work.


Thanks for the feedback! Just out of interest, do you find the topos usable although they are in Finnish only? We do have plans to make an English version too, but currently don't have the resources to do that.

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P.S. Just a small suggestion, is it possible to have a rough estimate of the length of routes on the topos?


Certainly. We'll think into that. At the moment, the overall height of the cliff is mostly mentioned on the front page. In your opinion, what would be the best way to include the lengths on the topos?

Cheers :)


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Just out of interest, do you find the topos usable although they are in Finnish only?


Yeap they are usable, I do understand a bit of Finnish but the use of icons means that I dont have to understand much. I like the icons you use for the amount and quality of protection (maybe because it is similar to the English system :)). Its nice to know how bold a route is before getting on it (you cannot always tell from the ground).

One thing that might increase usability is to have each topo for each crag on there own PDF file. This means you can print of a complete topo easily without having to print off each web page separately (which I have noticed dont always print out so well and it uses a lot of paper).

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At the moment, the overall height of the cliff is mostly mentioned on the front page


My lack of Finnish might have meant I have missed them. Although of course its just my personal opinion, I quite like knowing the height of the crag before I go so i know what I am in for and what gear to take (i.e. rope, number of quickdraws etc). Maybe the height of each route would be overkill, maybe just the rough height of each sector of the crags next to their names?

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Thanks for the feedback!


Not at all, thanks for putting in the large effort required to clean and record new crags. Also, although I am not against sport routes, I admire the fact that you have kept them as all trad crags.


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Jody wrote:
Yeap they are usable, I do understand a bit of Finnish but the use of icons means that I dont have to understand much. I like the icons you use for the amount and quality of protection (maybe because it is similar to the English system :)). Its nice to know how bold a route is before getting on it (you cannot always tell from the ground).


Good to hear that! Never having climbed outsite Finland yet, I was wondering if there's a website that explains the English system. I've heard about it, but I'd be interested to look into it better.

Jody wrote:
One thing that might increase usability is to have each topo for each crag on there own PDF file. This means you can print of a complete topo easily without having to print off each web page separately (which I have noticed dont always print out so well and it uses a lot of paper).


Yes, the planned English version would be a single PDF file for each cliff. I'm hoping we have the resources to do it some day :)
The Finnish version we're going to keep as web based hypertext, as it offers more versatility.

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My lack of Finnish might have meant I have missed them. Although of course its just my personal opinion, I quite like knowing the height of the crag before I go so i know what I am in for and what gear to take (i.e. rope, number of quickdraws etc). Maybe the height of each route would be overkill, maybe just the rough height of each sector of the crags next to their names?


I had a word with our topo team and it seems likely that we're going to put the overall height of each crag on the front page. We also consider putting the height of each sector on the topo. We'll see into that when the 2006 season begins 8) Thanks for this idea!

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Not at all, thanks for putting in the large effort required to clean and record new crags. Also, although I am not against sport routes, I admire the fact that you have kept them as all trad crags.


Glad to hear that :)


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