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Slouppi • View topic - Aloittelija Grigrillä?

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 Post subject: Aloittelija Grigrillä?
PostPosted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 09:47 
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Miten kannattaa tehdä kun varmistaja on kiivennyt melko vähän ja painoeroa kiipeilijään on kuitenkin ~20kg? Eräs kaverini suositteli Grigriä, mutta haluaisin täältä kysyä vielä käytännön neuvoja ja vinkkejä asiaan.

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Jos kiipeily tapahtuu sisällä voi varmistajan sitasta esim jollakin nauhalenkillä ja sulkkarilla seinään kiinni jos seinän alaosassa on porahakojen paikkoja.

Tällöin ei pienempikään kaveri lähde ilmaan vaikka toinen putoaisi
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Muista myös jos ankkuroit itsesi niin ankuroi varmistuslenkistä (leivonpääsolmu on hyvä nauhalenkin kanssa) eikä valjaiden vyöstä tai varustelenkistä eikä reisilenkeistä. Voi olla että tämä oli jo tuttu juttu mutta turvallisuus ennenkaikkea :D ja kannattaa myös harjoitella matalla turvallisesti putoamistilannetta.


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Lisäys: leivonpää alaankkuriin ja sulkkari varmistuslenkkiin.


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Ja GriGri on hyvä varmistuslaite kunhan hallitsee sen oikeaoppisen käytön ja harjoittelee turvallisesti eri tilanteita.


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Andrei wrote:
Ja GriGri on hyvä varmistuslaite kunhan hallitsee sen oikeaoppisen käytön ja harjoittelee turvallisesti eri tilanteita.


Sama pätee kaikkiin varmistuslaitteisiin.


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Toinen mitä kannattaisi harkita olis trangon cinch, koska se on kevyempi, köyden syöttö on helpompaa ja se on pommin varma.


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juu, kiitoksia. Ollaan käyty jokusen kerran kiipeilemässä ja grigrillä pääosin homma hoidettiin. ATC:tä harjoiteltiin ensin matalammalta ja sitten korkeammalta. Huomasin tuossa, että ei se kummallakaan (atc/grigri) vienyt 40kg kevyempää likkakaveriani minnekkään vaikka tipuinkin:P

Kiitos:)


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Aika paljon se varmistaminen on kiinni myös sen varmistajan hereilläolosta ja kyvystä tarkkailla tilannetta. Joskus Kalymnoksella ei 55kg tyttöystävä juuri maasta noussut, vaikka otin liidatessa 4-5m:n sturtseja. Ite painoin tuolloin 95kg paikkeilla. Käytössä oli tavallinen ATC. Jatkossa ex-tyttöystävä (nyk. rouva) on tykännyt enempi käytellä BD:n hammasversiota (ATC-XP). Sen kanssa on mukavampaa roikotella projektoivaa ukkoa. GriGri on joskus käytössä myös ja kyllä hyvä värkki. Ite tulee käytettyä sitä varmistaessa. Cinchiä en ole kokeillut.


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Kaikki ne on hyviä pelejä kunhan ei ala liiaksi luottaan värkkiinsä vaan pysyy hereillä. Tarkat hoksottimet on parhaat turvavälineet ever.

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Niinhän se toki on, että hereillä olo on tärkeää..:) Hyvänä esimerkkinä oli, että juttelin kaverin kanssa samalla kun varmistin ja kiipeävä kaveri halusi löysää ja joutui sanomaan aika monta kertaa ennen kuin mahtui minun korvasta sisään:P Jatkossa kiinnitetään siihen enemmän huomiota :)


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Andrei wrote:
Lisäys: leivonpää alaankkuriin ja sulkkari varmistuslenkkiin.

Jos ala-ankkuri on porahaan lehti, ei siihen saa suoraan laittaa slingiä. Rautaa väliin jottei slingi mene poikki.


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Erno wrote:
Toinen mitä kannattaisi harkita olis trangon cinch, koska se on kevyempi, köyden syöttö on helpompaa ja se on pommin varma.


MIKÄÄN laite ei ole pomminvarma, varsinkaan laitteet joissa on liikkuvia osia. Ei nyt eikä koskaan. Aamen.


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