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PostPosted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:32 
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Ralliautoilijoilta ja formulakuskeilta ovat kiellettyjä harrastuksia mm. vuorikiipeily ja laskuvarjohyppy vaarallisuutensa vuoksi.

Onkohan olemassa mitään tilastotietoa (esim vakuutusyhtiöillä) kuinka vaarallisia lajeja esim kalliokiipeily ja boulderointi todellisuudessa ovat?

Mitä lajeja sitten ammattikiipeilijältä tulisi kieltää? Aluksi esim. Salibandy ja jalkapallo, niissähän menee nilkkoja ja polvia rikki vähänväliä :roll:


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Joku muukin lukenut iltalehteä näimmä. :)


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Muistan joskus lukeneeni jotain tutkimusta, missä kaukalopallo oli vaarallisimpien lajien joukossa, ellei jopa vaarallisin. Pelataan paljon puulaaki urheiluna firma ja kaveri porukoilla. Vauhtia ja yritystä löytyy paljon, taitoa ei juurikaan. Huono yhdistelmä kaiken kaikkiaan.

Veikkaus on, että boulderointi on tilastollisesti vaarallisempaa kuin kalliokiipeily, vammat on ehkä asteeltaan lievempiä, mutta tapahtuu hiukan useammin. Vakuutus yhtiöiden kannalta Suomessa varmaankin on se ongelma, että harrastajakunta on niin suppea ja riski yksittäisen onnettomuuden kustannuksista on kohtuuttoman korkea niiden riskien hallintaan. Eli ei oo hyvä biznez, sanois Jallis.

Ja muuten Schumistahan oli muutama vuosi sitten kuvia, kun oli jossain päin USA:ta kalliokiipeilemässä.

P.S Miun mielestä eläminen tulisi kieltää kokonaan, siihen kuolee nimittäin varmasti. :P


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kyllähän ben moonkin oli säästynyt kiipeilyvammoilta aika hyvin, mutta annas olla, ku ukko meni kokeileen lumilautailua... siinä sitten pitkän aikaa oltiin kiipeemättä... ei hjuva ei. suutari pysyköön jne...


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Tämmönen on ollut yhdessä vanhassa kiipeilylehdess. Tutkumuksen tieteellisyydestä ei ole pienintäkään hajua.

R&I #58 (Nov/Dec '93), sivu 58 by Jeff Smoot

Accidents and Deaths per 100,000 participants per year, US only:

- Mountaineering (8,000 meter peaks); 5,000+ Accidents and 4,000+ Fatalities
- Paragliding; 5,900+ accidents and 400+ fatalities
- BASE Jumping; 5,000 and 300
- Mountaineering (Denali); 1,368 and 398
- Mountaineering (general); 602 and 146
- Climbing (all types, inc. rock climbing); 320 and 45
- Mountaineering (Mt. Rainier); 341 and 24
- Skydiving; 30 and 24
- Hng Gliding; 500+ and 22
- Automobiles (passenger and driver); 2,100 and 19.1
- Mountaineering (N. Cascades); 98 and 18.6
- Rock Climbing (Yosemite copilation); 400 and 18.3
- Boating (all types); 500 and 14.5
- Rock CLimbing (Smith Rock); 250 and 10
- Rock Climbing in general; 198 and 8
- Caving; 200 and 6
- Surfing; 154 and 4
- Diving; (scuba and recreational) 70 and 2.5
- Swimming; 170 and 2.5
- Boating; (pleasure [?]) 125 and 2.5
- Rock Climbing (Eldorado Canyon); 27 and 2
- Skiing; 1,440 and 2
- Bicycling; 1,049 and 1.7
- Rock CLimbing (Shawangunks); 100 and 1
- Hiking; 50 and 0.5
- Football; 2,857 and 0.05
- Commerial Airline transportation; 1 and 0.05
- Lightning Strikes; 0.015 and 0.0016


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Aikoinaan luin jostain (muistaakseni joku tietokilpailukysymys) etta kansainvalisen urheiluliiton tilastoissa eniten loukkaantumisia kirjattiin 110 metrin aitureille ja sitten taisi tulla heittolajit!

En tieda miten paikkansapitava ja tarkoittaa tietysti vain ilm. rekisteroityneita kilpaurheilijota?!

Urheilija ei tervetta paivaa nae.... :( ...onneksi kiipeily on elamantapa!!! :D

Jossain kirjoituksessa jaakiipeily ja BASE rinnastettiin maailman vaarallisimmiksi lajeiksi...mutta taisi olla joku pirkkalehden Veikka-haastattelu... :o

Mielenkiintoinen tuo edellinen tilasto...jenkithan pitaa vuosittain tuota tapaturmakirjanpitoa kiipeilysta...eiko suomessakin olla skillin puolelta pyydetty ilmoittamaan kaikista onnettomuuksista jotta saataisiin yilastoja!?


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