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 Post subject: Re: Kiipeilijän ensiapulaukku
PostPosted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 14:48 
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marsupilami wrote:
Mun mielestä on vähän outoa heittää jotain haavanhoito-ohjeita, jotka ovat täysin virheellisiä.


well.. ehkäpä tossa puhuu kokemus&käytäntö vs. teoreettinen osaaminen

Itse vierastaisin tota compeediä hieman muissa kuin ehkä rakkojen hoidossa. Kostea haavanhoito? En ole lainkaan vakuuttunut käytännössä, koska compeed täytyy pitää kunnes se irtoaa itsestään, jos sen repii pois ennen kuin se itse haluaa siitä lähtä niin uusi alle muodostunut iho lähtee sen mukana eli ollaa taas lähtöpisteessä. Toinen pointti on, jos haava osoittaisi tulehduksen merkkejä et pysty puhdistamaan haavaa ja laittamaan vaikkapa fucidin/betadine- voidetta tulehduksen hoitamiseksi. Perinteisellä haavanhoidolla, löyhempi ilmava sidos voidaan vaihtaa tarvittaessa helpommin kenttä olosuhteissa ja päivittäin tarkastella paranemisprosessia.

Paljon tietysti vaikuttaa onko tapahtumapaikkana sisäkiipeilyseinä vai alpine-conditions?


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 Post subject: Re: Kiipeilijän ensiapulaukku
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tukIain wrote:

well.. ehkäpä tossa puhuu kokemus&käytäntö vs. teoreettinen osaaminen



No mä en olekaan koskaan elämässäni joutunut haavoja hoitamaan...

Asia on kuitenkin niin, että mielipiteet pitää esittää mielipiteinä, ei faktoina. I rest my case.


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Panacodit ois kovia, mutta Buranakin helpottaa kummasti.


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 Post subject: Re: Kiipeilijän ensiapulaukku
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"...two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls."


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jeguri wrote:
"...two bags of grass, seventy-five pellets of mescaline, five sheets of high powered blotter acid, a salt shaker half full of cocaine, and a whole galaxy of multi-colored uppers, downers, screamers, laughers... and also a quart of tequila, a quart of rum, a case of beer, a pint of raw ether and two dozen amyls."


:D
Oliski niin kiipeilyyn taitais riittää paikalliset 30 m massiivit..


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punkkipihdit!


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 Post subject: Re: Kiipeilijän ensiapulaukku
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Pari asiaa lisäisin:

Yksi ääni SAM Medicalin muovailtavalle lastalle, se on hyvä. Jos vaikka nilkka tai ranne murtuu. Isommassa kengässä sen saa soviteltua kengän sisäpuolelle. Hankala saada Suomesta. http://www.sammedical.com/sam_splint.html

Isojen haavojen sulkemiseen jotain teippiä, joka on oikeasti siihen tehtyä. Tyyliin Steri-Strip. Jos haavassa on multaa, pesemiseen suositellaan jostain syystä ruiskulla (ilman neulaa) huuhtelua mieluummin kuin mukista kaatamista. En tiedä miksi, mutta ei se ruisku paljon paina.

Isojen ongelmien peittämiseen jotain isoa kalvoa, ainakin jos terkkarille on pitkä matka. Tyyliin http://wound.smith-nephew.com/uk/Product.asp?NodeId=813

Jos on edes osan reissusta yksin liikkeellä, niin taskupeili. Ilman sitä ei saa edes laastaria naamaansa.


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