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Slouppi • View topic - Keep it clean!

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It's nice to see that Åland is such a popular climbing place, with many visitors every year.

This might be a problem in the long run if we don't all help to keep it clean, my friend yesterday gathered a small bag with climbing related garbage only in Djupviken.

A few guidelines:

-Please don't leave anything, and I mean anything in the nature, finger tape and cigarette butts will stay for a looong time and we would like to keep Åland clean.

-Also it would be nice if you remove your tickmarks and excessive chalk in areas where there is also non climbers.

-Don't put up open fire, there is often a fire hazard in Åland and if you put the fire directly on the rock the rock will also be ruined for all future.

-Respect private roads.

-Also check out the rights of common:
http://www.goaland.net/shownews.asp?lan ... tyle=index


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Tomas Johansson


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oh my..


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Those two words make me sad, I really hope you don't represent the attidude of the rest of the climbing community.

I realize that there are places with far worse problems than Åland but thats not an excuse. The problems are real, I didn't open this thread for fun.


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I think we should keep every single crag area clean in Finland!


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Are there some specific problems we need to be aware of?


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I think the private road issue is the biggest right now but I will not mention the specific road because I don't want to promote it further. I know of two cars with climbers that has been stopped by angry roadowners on that road. If you want to know which road I mean, send me an email because I know you already know of it.

The other guidlines I wrote are also true, and for most people there is no trouble since it's just common sense but there are climbers that climb so hard that they cannot possibly have the strength left to carry their garbage home. :wink:


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tomas, don't be so hard to yourself.. i was just kidding with my recent post and am aware of problem with trash people leave after themselves. see you somewhere at some point?

olli


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i can confirm that it is a *very* bad idea to use the road tomas mentioned.

furthermore, i suspect that yours truly and some of my associates might be responsible for at least part of the trash collected after last weekend and certainly for the fireplace.

i can only say that we sincerely tried to leave nothing behind, but obviously we have to redefine 'nothing' when on åland. excessive enthusiasm also surely contributed to forgotten strands of tape etc.

so, please take us as bad examples, and follow the guidelines above, as the bouldering on åland is way too good to be lost due to sloppiness!


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I guess it would not be too much to ask.
Thanks for warning Tomas.

<font size=-1>[ This Message was edited by: AnSsi on 2003-06-05 12:15 ]</font>


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wow. i'm off for a couple of days and this is what i find...

first of all it's good that you pointed this out yourself tomas. people going to åland should be very aware of these issues and especially the differences in rights of common. that's why the current situation i.e. lack of topos is the way to go, in my opinion.

(JOKAMIEHEN OIKEUDET EI OLE SAMOJA AFFIKSELLA, MM. EI SAA TELTTAILLA LUONNOSSA)


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now, that is rubbish. not a single ahvenanmaa dude has right to say to a righteous man from the continent that he has no right to use the land of ahvenanmaa. fuck, let's sell to the whole island to the swedes.


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and move the people to the declining areas in eastern finland to fill the nice but empty element buildings? fancy that tomas or do you prefer sipping latte at your seaside mansion?


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guess if we sell the people aswell we will get some extra money?


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Nah, don't think we'll get more money. There are way too many women. What if we sell only the men?


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btw.

I think it might be wise to state where there might be some access problems so people know to avoid them. Or is it some "new and unknown" site?


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